Pies And Pints And The String Band Festival

August 4th, 2010
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We love music.  All kinds.  It tends to go well with pizza and beer and West Virginia in general.

Yes, we probably even like that kind that you don’t like, just a little.

F-holes: the world's first amplifiers.

So we’re incredibly happy to announce to anyone who doesn’t know that the Annual Appalachian String Band Festival at Camp Washington Carver is coming up.  They’re just on the other side of the New River Gorge from us, and we’d like to say with as much enthusiasm as possible that it’s well worth your time to check out.

Why?

It’s the oldest music festival in the country, for starters. That’s saying something.

But the real thing is, it still sounds like it. The String Band Festival, A.K.A Clifftop, isn’t a bluegrass festival; it’s old time music.  The style that’s pre-bluegrass.  (Just for clarifiacation, we’re not even about to go into a whole old-time Vs. bluegrass thing here).

Almost everyone at the festival is a musician.  Imagine that for a sec.  Thousands of people, camping out right on the rim of the New River Gorge, playing music.  For days.  If it sounds like fun to you, you’re right.

The music floats.  Through the trees, up and down the hills, in and out of the campground.  It’s ethereal.  Really.  And I’m not even sure what that word means.

Seriously, what could be better than something like this: come on up to the New River National Park, spend the day playing around (white water rafting, rock climbing, mountain biking, hiking, birding, etc.), come into Pies for an icy cold one and a taste of the goods, then drive over to Clifftop and get transported back in time through music.

So, here’s a proposition:  Come here.  Go to Clifftop.  Experience it, because it’s just about as authentic, down home Mountain State as anyone is ever going to get.

P.S.  The scene in the campground, which is what the fest is really all about, gets fired up around dusk.  It’ll stop around dawn.

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Can You Eat Every Pizza In The Universe?

July 27th, 2010
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Well, almost every pizza in the universe.

Okay, okay… every pizza on our menu.  And a bunch that aren’t.

Buffet Night

Buffet Night - Every Tuesday

A long, long time ago, we decided that a good way for us to get a little more adventurous in the kitchen was to create regular chef specials.  These would be the pies that we dreamed of.  Things that didn’t quite fit on the menu, but we thought would be really delicious.

But how to get the word out?

Enter Buffet Tuesdays (hey, that’s today!).  Here’s the basic idea:  We put out a bunch of pies from the menu, favorites like The Classic, The Chipotle Chicken, and The Margherita.  Plus salads.

Then, we rotate in some Chef’s Specials.  They’re basically kitchen creations based on our own taste buds, along with suggestions from all of you.  Thanks for making them, and Buffet Tuesday, such a success.

Here’s a look at how we do it…

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Pints Primer: Ale Vs. Lager

July 26th, 2010
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We’re beer snobs.

Well, kind of.  Let’s say we used to be beer snobs.  When we first opened Pies & Pints in the New River Gorge, we weren’t going to serve big name beer at all.

Mmmmmmm... beer.

That was the plan, anyway.  Didn’t work.  We had to change our thinking and realize that not everyone wants micro and craft brew.  We’ve learned.  We sell more Bud Light than anything else.

Still, we have a huge appreciation for (what we humbly consider) the good stuff.

We even carry a craft beer label from right here in the Gorge.  The guys at Bridge Brew Works are friends of ours, and we’re loving the stuff they’re creating.  Make sure you try a pint the next time you’re in.

The microbrew culture is exploding in West Virginia.  Lucky us.  Gotta say that, from behind the bar, there’s nothing cooler than seeing people getting turned on to a beer that they’ve never tried (it’s almost as nice as seeing the same thing happen with our pizza).

So we thought it might be nice to offer a little beer 101 for folks that might be curious about trying some new beers.  Without further adieu, here’s the lowdown on Ale Vs. Lager.

Simply put, when the yeast ferments from the bottom, it makes lager.  When the yeast ferments from the top, it makes ale.  Ales ferment at warmer temps, lagers need to be colder.  Ales take less time to make, lagers take longer.  All beer is either ale or lager.

Lager This is the one that most people are already familiar with.  Most big name american beers, like Bud and PBR, are lagers of the pilsner variety.  Other types of lager are bocks, double bocks, helles, dunkel, and ambers.

Oh, and malt liquor.  We don’t serve any of that.  Yet.

Lagers ferment at colder temps than ales, and don’t carry quite as much alcohol.  Think clean, sharp, light, and pretty easy going down.

Ales These are the big beers.  Big meaning robust, complex, and sometimes very, very dark.

Some of the types of ales you’ll see are ESB (extra special bitter), wheat or whitbier, pale ales, and porters.

Also, the king-daddy of the beer world: stout.  Drinking stout is a special experience, which of course give it some colorful nicknames- motor oil, steak-in-a-bottle, the darkness, etc.  If you’ve never had a stout, do yourself a favor and  order one.  Even if you don’t like it, you can say you’ve tried.

So There You Have It

The beginner’s guide to lager vs. ale.  When you come into Pies next time, quiz us on which is which.  We might have the answers.  If not, we definitely have the materials to conduct your own tests.

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Murals And Pizza And Beer

July 9th, 2010
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Let’s go back in time, shall we?

Sometime around 1890, there was a watering hole in downtown Charleston, West Virginia.  A saloon.

Restored Mural In The New Pies And Pints

In all its original glory

It was probably a pretty fun place to hang out.  It was there on Capitol Street, in the center of the city.  I’m imagining sawdust on the floor, an upright piano that belted out tin pan alley favorites till the wee hours.  Card games.  Cigar smoke.

You know what I’m talking about, right?  Like the old west, but back east.  With a West Virginia feel to it.  The side of the building had a big mural on the side- The White Elephant Saloon.

(Just a footnote:  It’s not this saloon.)

Now fast forward to the next century.

The buildings on Capitol Street have become a become a beautiful, walkable mall.  Great shops and restaurants are the new inhabitants, and there’s a community feel there for everyone that visits.

During a 2003 remodel, the building’s owner decided to take a peeK at what was under the paint on the wall.  Lo and behold, there sat the white elephant, a gorgeuous artifact from a time long past.

It was restored by Jesse Corliss, a designer who worked in the same building.  In 2004, the original painted sign on the brick wall, now inside the neighboring building, was brought back to life.

A few years later, the unthinkable happened.  Actually, maybe that’s a little dramatic.  Let’s put it another way:

Mural Mid-restoration In The New Pies And Pints

Mid restoration, coming along nicely.

In 2008, the remarkably stupid happened.

A person who shall remain nameless leased the space to open a restaurant.  For whatever reason (they hated beautiful, historical artwork?), they painted over it.  Ugh.

The restaurant never opened. Hmmmmm.

Enter Pies And Pints.  As lovers of all things cool, interesting, and delicious, there was no way we were going to let the elephant sit abandoned, forever relagated to a life under a coat of bland, boring paint.  We called up Jesse, the original restorer of the painting, to come back and re-restore it (is that a word?) to its original awesomeness.

And that’s what you’ll see, the sign for the White Elephant Saloon, when you come into the new Pies And Pints on Capitol Street.

Pretty cool, no?

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Because You Only Get One Chance To Make A First (Pies) Impression

June 21st, 2010
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Hi there, faithful Pies and Pints folks.  I’m writing this message one day after we last visited our new space at 222 Capitol Street in Charleston. We just took our entire management team there to conduct a walkthrough of the planned renovations.   Our hope was to gain a little perspective on the new Pies with some seasoned-but-fresh eyes.

Here’s the verdict: We will not be able to be open this summer without compromising our extremely high standards of service and food quality.  We’re moving the grand opening to fall.

Like this, but open.

Most of you really, really like Pies & Pints in Fayetteville.  And we know exactly how we’ve won your business: by assembling a team of highly qualified people in our kitchen and in our dining room, and by serving up the goods. Thanks to you, our customers, business has exploded in the seven years we’ve been in operation.

Most of you also know that Fayetteville thrives on a seasonal economy, which basically ends the day after Bridge Day.  With that in mind, we’ve decided to push back the opening of our Charleston location until after Bridge Day (always the third Saturday in October).  That way, we can use our Fayetteville team to help with all the ins and outs of opening of the Charleston restaurant.

And that just makes sense.  We want to bring you the best we can.  And they’re in Fayetteville right now.  They will be until the fall.

Charleston, listen- we love you.  Things are moving along pretty much as planned.  Renovations are in progress, licenses are in place, staffing is in progress and backing is plentiful.  We’ll just be a little later in opening, to ensure our high standards are there at our new location on day one.  We are definitely coming.

Something to keep in mind, too, is that we’re new to this.  We’ve never opened a second location.  Our goal isn’t just to sell pizza and beer;  We want to be a pillar of what we see as that rebirth and renaissance of downtown Charleston (and also sell a lot of pizza and beer).  Just take a look at our neighbors.  We’re sharing the block with Taylor Books and Ellen’s Ice Cream, two businesses who’ve helped build the downtown we’re becoming a part of.   If we want to be up to the task, we better make sure we do it right.

Sincerely folks, we only want to provide you with impeccable service, handcrafted pizza, and premium beer. So we’re going to take some extra time, fine tune our kitchen, polish our silverware, and aim for a late October early November opening. Thanks, and we’ll see you in the glorious West Virginia fall.

P.S.  We’re working on something interesting to make up for the delay.  Something very… Pies-And-Pints-ish.  Details to come, everybody.

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The 5 Best Pizza Toppings You’ve Never Tried

June 11th, 2010
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Pepperoni.  Sausage.  Mushrooms.

Yawn.

Sorry.  That stuff’s great and all, but don’t you get tired of the same old faces staring back up at you from your pie?  Jeez, mix it up, will ya?

Aw Yeah

Here’s a quick list of some of the stuff we’re using for pizza toppings at Pies and Pints.  Try something different the next time you come in, or, even better, try something new at home and tell us about it.  It might end up on the menu.  Seriously.

1.)  Red Grapes. Yup, the grape is where it’s at.  There’s that sweetness, with the slight bite from the skin, that just sets off a completely different flavor than you expect.  Best used with liberal amounts of rosemary.  Plus, they’re juicy!

2.) Toasted Coconut.  If you really want an exotic flavor with your pizza, toasted coconut is the way to go.  Not only do you get seafood and smoke undertones, but the texture is unbeatable.  We use it with shrimp and cilantro on out Thai Pie.

3.)  Eggplant.  Our favorite purple vegetable (suck on it, cabbage!) adds a savory taste to pizza, even without adding meat.  Try it with either red or white sauce, and add some roasted garlic to really make it pop.

4.)  Marinated Pulled Pork.  No, not barbecue.  Something more subtle, really bringing out the flavor of the meat.  There are a couple ways you can go here- we use it cuban style, with caramelized onions and jalapenos.

5.)  Gorgonzola/Artichoke Hearts (tie). It’s hard to choose here.  On the one hand, gorgonzola is a way to take pizza in an entirely different direction, sharp and hefty.  The hearts are just the right texture (smooth) to round out their understated flavor, even the marinated ones.

Might have to combine those last two, maybe add some ground italian sausage.  We can make that happen for you.

What do you think?  What are we missing?

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I Went to NYC for Some Eats

May 14th, 2010
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So two weeks ago I went to NYC for a good friends wedding and here was what we ate…..

One of the best pizzas I have ever eaten at Frannys in Broklyn, the White Pie with oregano and a little chili oil, seriously out of this world. I may have wept.

We also ate pizza at Motorino in Manhattan, very cool small space with excellent pizza too, brussel sprouts stood out to be the best, amazingly kind and accommodating staff.

We had burgers for breakfast at Le Parker Meridean which is a sweet hotel that my friend got married in, it wasn’t until days later that we realized they had a secret burger joint tucked down a hallway and the only thing you saw was a cheesy burger neon. Fantastic burger, cooked to temp in a dive setting with not many choices, cash only, Sam Adams on draft and milkshakes, 20 people waiting in line.

BalthazarWe had great kimchi at a hip little Korean joint in Greenpoint Brooklyn, we went back for other items such as ribs and sausage and more kimchi.

Sunday afternoon brunch at Balthazar was three hours long and and had everything from chicken liver mousse to braised beef with egg noodles, steak frites, salmon, trout, oh yes, there may have even been some eggs, all washed down with copious amounts of sparkling rose, and some delicious cocktails. Fantastic scene.

Defontes sandwiches are amazing. Giant piles of house made meats are piled high and served up by friendly, enthusiastic deli guys. My good friend Mike Masem is a deli guy, you should all check him out at the Point O’ Woods market if you happen to be on Fire Island.

One of the last meals we had was at Fatty Crab which is a Malaysian place that serves up sweet, sour, salty, and spicy with a kick of bitterness. Great Dark and Stormy cocktails.

And I think last but not least was Spanish cuisine at Mercat. We were drunk, loud, and sassy. They responded right back… a sassy server, fantastic Tapas and a wonderful experience overall. Well folks, that’s all for now but look out for more nonsense and food/drink talk. I am worried about gout. Seriously.

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Sledge Hammers, Power Tools…and Pie

January 15th, 2010
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I have been a very bad blogger but as a New Years Resolution I will improve!

I think I left off somewhere along the lines of a rain soaked April…… We got going fast, real fast. Sledge hammers and some power tools. This was fun, this was dusty, shit, is that asbestos in them walls boy? NO. We forged on, we got help, and lots of it. This was over my head but the joy of destruction/creation was a fantastic motivator.

There were colors to pick, equipment to buy, menus to make, copius amounts of beer and wine to try. Quality control to keep the midnight oil burning. It was non-stop; day in day out decisions amidst the dust strewn remnants of the place that would become Pies and Pints.

As we forged along in the building, design, ideas, planning phase; we read, wrote, thought, tasted and tried all the ideas we had.

People often ask us how we come up with the combination’s of toppings on our pies. It comes from late nights at dingy bars talking about food after you just got finished feeding/serving people all night long, it comes from reading food magazines and cookbooks and incessantly talking about the ideas, then trying them. Sometimes it’s just downright thievery. What’s that they say about imitation being something or other… I forget. But I remember vividly the first time i tried a flatbread served with warmed goat cheese and rosemary. Salt Lake city, yeah we stole it, but made a few changes, and tweaked it until it was ours. Most of our ideas come from traveling, eating, drinking, cooking and being downright passionate about food. Next time we will delve into some of the great ones, some of the ones that didn’t work, and those that are written in the back of an old marble notebook.

Keep eating.

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Why Our Pizza Is So Damn Good

November 17th, 2009
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So, we go from pizza in Italy, and throughout America, we made it ours. Regional styles helped characterize good stuff from all over- New York, New England, Chicago, California.

All these styles of pie, and I still needed to make my own. There was a pizza guy named Mike working at my step-dad’s pizza place on Long Island. It was he who made two pies side by side with the same dough, sauce, cheese and they were two totally different pies. Why? because he made one traditional and one what he called bakery style. Cheese on top of the dough with the sauce lightly spread out over the top. Wow. Really, it was a revelation to me and I swore that when I opened my own place we would serve cheese down first on our pies.

And so we do. It’s our signature, the thing that makes it mine. Cheese first is cool in lots of ways, but mostly, it’s something we do that no one (okay, almost no one) does.

There’s other things, too. We used a quick cooked sauce which is probably considered blasphemy among pizza afficionados, but we played around and felt that the cooked sauce had SO much flavor- it tasted better than the uncooked. And, we’re not trying to be traditional; we’re just trying to be us.

More. Salt is a key. We oil and salt our crust so that at the end of the slice you have a special, salty, doughy snack. A delicious pizza bone.

Also, we like to cook our pies dark. I actually like mine nearly burnt (which we’ve stopped doing much to the happiness of our loyal guests). Sometimes we’ll send a pie out that someone might consider burnt. But it’s only charred. Big difference. Promise. I’m not saying that we have not burned a pie or two, but take a bite before you judge. Trust me.

I wanted toppings that rocked. Again, different. Specialty pies. They’re a compilation of travels, restaurants, dreams, and booze induced late night eating extravaganzas that Kim and I have had over the years. We’ve both traveled a lot, read a lot, and really eaten a lot (I probably win in that last category). Still, we wanted people to find something delicious, and out of the ordinary. We’re definitely doing that.

So there you have it. I think. For now at least. Good pizza takes many shapes and forms. I still always try to find the best pizza in the towns that I travel to. And I’ve had pizza that’s better than ours. Most (and I mean almost all of it) is not. That makes me very proud.

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Pizza Through the Ages

October 22nd, 2009
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A Pies & Pints Black Bean Pie

A Pies & Pints Black Bean Pie


I just returned from a trip to Long Island and NYC; my old stomping grounds. Had a few slices of pie and lots of discussions about pizza with all those who would listen (thank you, Tashia, for being all ears).

Started off with a couple of fantastic slices from Del Fiorre in Patchogue. This was the first place that showed me what pizza could be. Creative, authentic Italian toppings placed on an airy, crisp crust. They bake most of their pies in pans and the pies are a bit thicker than I prefer but -believe me- they are still doing their thing well.

Our pizza oven was actually purchased used from these guys a few years ago. Kim and I rented a U-Haul, met my old friend Mike Masem, and loaded it piece by piece into the truck. Then back to WV, where it sat in Kim’s garage for over a year. When we moved into the new spot we paid a pretty penny, and had it all put back together and tuned up. It is a workhorse of an oven.

Okay, the pizza. One night at a faux Irish pub on Long Island, with another one of my old cronies, Dave Brown. He brought in a pizza box from a nearby pizza joint. In it was:

• A slice of traditional Sicilian pizza, which is thick and cooked in a pan
• A slice of Grandma- a thin Sicilian slice with a plum tomato sauce
• And two slices of what was New York style pizza with California style toppings.

What’s the difference? Why is some pizza better than others? Is it really in the NYC water? And what makes Pies and Pints so damn good? All these questions and more were the topic of discussion that night.

Naples Italy is the birthplace of modern day pizza. Those of you who follow this and go over it with a fine tooth comb may say that that China actually invented a flatbread with toppings on it Millenia ago (yeah, and pasta too). But for our purposes lets go to Italy.

Technically pizza is nothing more that a flat leavened bread with sauce, cheese, and perhaps a few toppings on it. Or at least that was what the Italians gave to us. So Neopolitan pizza will be a traditional, authentic pizza, which is to say it will be very thin, slightly chewy, charred in a few places but not really crisp, it will have an uncooked tomato sauce and a little bit of cheese. Very few toppings on these pies and they are cooked quickly in a roaring hot wood-fired oven, somewhere in the 900 degree range.

Fast forward to the 40’s where pizza really took off with all the WWII vets returning home and craving pizza like they had in Italy. The whole thing really happened in NYC. Lombardis has the first license in America to serve pizza and they are still churning it out over one hundred years later.

New York style pizza is thin, but a bit thicker than Neopolitan, It is usually cooked in a gas-deck pizza oven, on a stone surface, it takes more liberties with the addition of toppings. Think pepperoni, mushrooms, canned black olives, peppers, onions, etc. It’s usually eaten folded out of hand. Ah, memories. This is the stuff I grew up eating. Fantastic, cheesy, a little oily, a lot delicious.

There are other regional pies, too. New Haven, Connecticut is the home to crisp, nearly cracker thin pies cooked in an irregular square/oval and served on a pan. Lots of cornmeal on the bottom of these pizzas. I’ve never had the pleasure to enjoy a pizza at Sally’s or Frank Peppes place, but one day… one day.

The closest I came was actually in Chicago at Piece Pizzeria and Brewery. This place is great, lots of fun, but… Chicago style pizza is big, thick, doughy, cheesy, and baked in a pan. Some people love it- I can’t say that I do. Hey, to each their own, it takes all kinds, and whatever floats your boat.

Heading out West to California, things get… weird. This is the place where creative chefs started putting crazy things on pizza in the 80’s, such as artichokes, smoked salmon, creme fraiche, squash blossoms, chorizo, you name it. Think Spago, Chez Panisse, and there’s a place called the Caioti Pizza Cafe where the owner Ed Ladou is considered the founder of GOURMET pizza. We at Pies owe him some reverence. One day there will be a pilgrimage to the West coast, anyone up for it?

For anyone interested in learning more, read the book, Pizza- A Slice of Heaven, by Ed Levine. There is and article in the June 2008 Wine Spectator that does a great job of discussing pizza. Also, GQ has an article by Alan Richman called American Pie, which is in this year’s June issue.

So, that’s where the foundation comes from, the oven where my dreams turned golden brown, you might say. Next time- How we took all that and turned it into Pies & Pints.

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